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Post  BobShmob Sat Jun 06, 2009 2:42 pm

You listen to him explaining things, and you're like "how does he know this?"
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Post  Jon Sat Jun 06, 2009 5:40 pm

I just read a book by Michael Pollan, a botanist (very appropriate name), and found it very interesting. It is about how natural selection in plants takes place in order for them to be domesticated.
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Post  meggiebean Mon Jun 08, 2009 7:10 am

IzNotSpontaneous wrote:First of all, welcome to the forums Meghan, and second of all you are way to addicted to twilight Rolling Eyes lol

Yeah... i know... Emily and I won the Bella Swan award... hehe Laughing

anyway.... my name is spelled without an H: Megan ! lol
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Post  IzNotSpontaneous Mon Jun 08, 2009 7:18 am

lol, sorry Embarassed
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Post  Insanity Mon Jun 08, 2009 8:26 am

meggiebean wrote:
IzNotSpontaneous wrote:First of all, welcome to the forums Meghan, and second of all you are way to addicted to twilight Rolling Eyes lol

Yeah... i know... Emily and I won the Bella Swan award... hehe Laughing

anyway.... my name is spelled without an H: Megan ! lol
well obviously!! nice avatar! Wink Laughing

All of this belongs in the "welcome to the forum" section, not here. Please avoid digressions. Thank you.
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Post  eklipse13 Mon Jun 08, 2009 10:34 am

Bleh twilight.





Oh, and the book series Maximum Ride is awesome!!! Woot James Patterson!
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Post  Insanity Mon Jun 08, 2009 11:54 am

James Patterson is awesome!! Maximum Ride rules Very Happy

you have to read The Dangerous Days Of Daniel X, is also awesome and from James Patterson Very Happy
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Post  eklipse13 Mon Jun 08, 2009 1:13 pm

I'll look into it. Happy
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Post  Insanity Tue Jun 09, 2009 1:02 pm

oh, and I like only one type of biography, and that would be on Elton John. but obviously these kinds of books are for over-obsessed, freaky, and addicted fans of him. lol! lol! lol!
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Post  Colleenk Tue Jun 09, 2009 11:35 pm

My brother, mom, and dad all read the "Percy Jackson and the Olympians" series and loved the books. I might have to read them after I finish the last Twilight book... (sorry guys) Happy

I also liked:
- Ender's Game
- the Uglies series
- My Sister's Keeper (I read this a while ago, and it is coming out as a movie now. It was a really good book!)
- Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galazy
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Post  Indiana_Bones Thu Jun 11, 2009 4:01 pm

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I dislike Sherlock Holmes- he is too perfect
I also dislike how Redwall stereotypes animals (all the rats are evil, etc.)

I mostly agree about Redwall. You won't get much of an argument out of me on that one. There is a blatant assignment of good and evil based on animal type. However, there have been some animals that cross those lines. Also, I still enjoy the stories.

As for Sherlock Holmes, he isn't perfect. His ability to perceive many things at once, came with a high cost. He had a lot of problems. True he was extremely good at what he did, but not perfect. He was even beaten at his own game once!
Interestingly enough I like Sherlock for his "near perfection." That kind of thing is unusual in Literature. He always used his talents to help the individuals who needed it. He is a genuinely good character. On top of that he had worked very hard to widen his knowledge base while increasing his natural skills. He is a hero who has worked for all his abilities and I find the stories much more inspiring and relatable than any "Hero" who has power handed to him and has to battle his inner moral, mental, and emotional weakness.
Ultimately I Think he is a very good case study of what we are trying to become. Both good and excellent. He is someone who is succeeding in both categories, but hasn't come all the way.

(Forgive me for the length. One thing I know about myself is that when I post I have a complete thought. I find I am always long winded! Feel free to question, challenge, disagree, or quote! )
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Post  BobShmob Thu Jun 11, 2009 4:06 pm

Indiana_Bones wrote:
BobShmob wrote:
I dislike Sherlock Holmes- he is too perfect
I also dislike how Redwall stereotypes animals (all the rats are evil, etc.)

I mostly agree about Redwall. You won't get much of an argument out of me on that one. There is a blatant assignment of good and evil based on animal type. However, there have been some animals that cross those lines. Also, I still enjoy the stories.

As for Sherlock Holmes, he isn't perfect. His ability to perceive many things at once, came with a high cost. He had a lot of problems. True he was extremely good at what he did, but not perfect. He was even beaten at his own game once!
Interestingly enough I like Sherlock for his "near perfection." That kind of thing is unusual in Literature. He always used his talents to help the individuals who needed it. He is a genuinely good character. On top of that he had worked very hard to widen his knowledge base while increasing his natural skills. He is a hero who has worked for all his abilities and I find the stories much more inspiring and relatable than any "Hero" who has power handed to him and has to battle his inner moral, mental, and emotional weakness.
Ultimately I Think he is a very good case study of what we are trying to become. Both good and excellent. He is someone who is succeeding in both categories, but hasn't come all the way.

(Forgive me for the length. One thing I know about myself is that when I post I have a complete thought. I find I am always long winded! Feel free to question, challenge, disagree, or quote! )
I dislike most heros. I don't like heros like Superman OR Sherlock Holmes. I prefer stories about people who are victims of circumstance mostly. That is partly why I enjoy many of Terry Pratchett's books (I also like them because he makes fun of everything)
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Post  Indiana_Bones Thu Jun 11, 2009 4:17 pm

I do like those every once in a while.
Hitchhikers guide to the galaxy, one of my favorite books is like that.
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Post  BobShmob Thu Jun 11, 2009 4:19 pm

hitchhikers guide to the galaxy ftw!!!!
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Post  IzNotSpontaneous Thu Jun 11, 2009 4:48 pm

yes! amazingness
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Post  azer Thu Jun 11, 2009 5:56 pm

Indiana_Bones wrote:
BobShmob wrote:
I dislike Sherlock Holmes- he is too perfect
I also dislike how Redwall stereotypes animals (all the rats are evil, etc.)

I mostly agree about Redwall. You won't get much of an argument out of me on that one. There is a blatant assignment of good and evil based on animal type. However, there have been some animals that cross those lines. Also, I still enjoy the stories.


The thing is that most of the time the evil animals who do cross the line turn out to be traitors. Also, the stories are EXTREMELY formulaic. there is always a skipper and a foremole, and they always have the exact same personalities is every story. Its like they keep getting reincarnated or something. There is always an evil tyrant with no interesting personality who is overly arrogant. Also, the books keep taking large parts out of the main action to inform us of the activities of the Redwall babies, or the obscenely large appetites of the various creatures. The hares are always the same, the Abbot is always the same, and the minor and grunt-level villains seem like they constantly come back in new bodies and species. There is very little story diversity overall, and I eventually stopped after my 15th-ish redwall book. If you want some REALLY good books by that author, read the Castaways of the Flying Dutchman series.
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Post  eklipse13 Fri Jun 12, 2009 10:55 am

The inheritance series is awesome. Christopher Paolini really hit a gem with Brisingr!
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Post  Indiana_Bones Fri Jun 12, 2009 11:23 am

@ Azer

True! But I haven't read more than 5 of them!
I guess they will get formulaic eventually.
So do most series.
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Post  BobShmob Fri Jun 12, 2009 1:13 pm

Indiana_Bones wrote:@ Azer

True! But I haven't read more than 5 of them!
I guess they will get formulaic eventually.
So do most series.
Usually the ones that don't get formulaic just get more and more ridiculous and annoying (the characters become annoying and the situations become more and more improbable).
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Post  CookieMonsterofthe42 Fri Jul 24, 2009 10:14 pm

Hey I am in need for some new books to read any suggestions?
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Post  BobShmob Sat Jul 25, 2009 8:39 am

I have already recommended these books, but Discworld books by Terry Pratchett are very funny, and if you like them, there are a lot of them to read. The best ones are Going Postal, Interesting Times, and The Last Continent.
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Post  CookieMonsterofthe42 Sat Jul 25, 2009 11:25 am

okay...any others?
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Post  IzNotSpontaneous Sat Jul 25, 2009 7:34 pm

currently, I am reading And Then There Were None XD
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Post  BobShmob Sat Jul 25, 2009 8:13 pm

There is the Hitchhikers Trilogy, Percy Jackson and the Olympians, and Inkheart and the sequels... You probably know of all those, but I dunno if you've actually read them.
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Post  CookieMonsterofthe42 Sat Jul 25, 2009 10:04 pm

I have read Ink heart have and their sequels but that other series I have not heard of
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