Paradoxes!

Talk about paradoxes here:

(examples)

The Liar Paradox:
This statement is false.

The Ontological Paradox:
I went back in time and killed my father, which means I could not exist, which means I could not have killed my father, which means I do exist, which means I killed my father...

solution to the ontological paradox: by killing your father, he never existed, so you had a different father, meaning the person you killed was not you father.

Does nothing exist? What is nothing?

Jon wrote:solution to the ontological paradox: by killing your father, he never existed, so you had a different father, meaning the person you killed was not you father.

really, if you were to go back and time and kill your father you wouldn't b/c if you did, you wouldn't be able to b/c you already did therefore you don't exist, and so once the infinite time cycle goes around once or whatever, you'll never exist,

(translation, if you do, you did, and you don't exist therefore you can't really) Think about it, you'll hurt your head

The Liar Paradox:
This statement is false.

which statement?, exactly

it takes a lot to make my head hurt. um, that isn't doing it.

ok, you can't go back in time to kill your say, mother, because if you did you wouldn't exist and therefore not have the ability to do it! (you can't do what you can)

yes, mother is different.

well, then again, it depends in what point of time you kill your father, because at some point you'd be a different person, so this would still be possible.

yeah, it still goes WEIRD when you kill your father, but the mother... then things are like OMGWTFBBQ!

It's incredibly complicated, depending on at what point in time you did it.

I am always lying.

the barber paradox: An adult male barber shaves all men who do not shave themselves, and no one else. Can he shave himself?

moved to general: thought you guys were going to spam it, but you didn't, so...

@felicia: The statement that says, "this statement is false." it is similar to jon's most recent post before this one.

except this statement could refer to any statement and therefore is flawed as a paradox

But "I'm always lying" fixes it

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_paradoxes <--- wiki has a lot of paradoxes

@Jay: I know that, I was talking about the ontological paradox.

and WOW, that is a lot of paradoxes!

IzNotSpontaneous wrote:except this statement could refer to any statement and therefore is flawed as a paradox

the thing is that it says "this statement," which infers it as talking about itself.

Here's another fix:

One one side of a piece of paper it states:
"THE STATEMENT ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THIS PAPER IS TRUE"
On the other:
"THE STATEMENT ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THIS PAPER IS FALSE"

think about it.

well, the other side of *this paper

*this is to broad of a term, for all I know you are talking about the paper in California!

(refrain from using this in paradoxes like that)

yes "this" is an excruciatingly vague term, but it is used in most paradoxes and you can't do anything about it.

and therefore those paradoxes are failz, and therefore not truely paradoxez!

not really. you just can't understand the concept.

no... its just not truly specific enough to have no flaws in it at all, but since it does it therefore is not infinitely impossible!

wow...

Wow what, that wasn't confusing. Maybe pathetic, but, erm, not really worthy of provoking a "wow".

Insanity wrote:Wow what, that wasn't confusing. Maybe pathetic, but, erm, not really worthy of provoking a "wow".

thanks, you make me feel so loved