Iranian Protests.

Keep fighting Iran, keep trying. The world is by your side.

Amen, although I think that despite what numerous Republicans have said, Obama should not get involved. That would just prove everything that the current president of Iran is saying about the U.S. , that we go around meddling with other countries, and would give him an excuse to crush the protests as a U.S.-backed uprising.

I agree with Azer. Obama can't afford to get into something like this. Plus, I don't think that Iran would appreciate it.

azer wrote:Amen, although I think that despite what numerous Republicans have said, Obama should not get involved. That would just prove everything that the current president of Iran is saying about the U.S. , that we go around meddling with other countries, and would give him an excuse to crush the protests as a U.S.-backed uprising.

Don't worry, many people agree with this viewpoint, thankfully.

Mir Hussein Moussavi may not be as open to diplomacy as he seems. When he was prime minister in the '70s, he was advocating for a more closed system. Even if he has changed, though, supreme leader Khameini holds the real power, and can depose any president at any time. (He is the religious leader.)

i agree, it would essentially be a waste of money for US to be involved, considering the amount of money already being wasted now.

Jon wrote:Mir Hussein Moussavi may not be as open to diplomacy as he seems. When he was prime minister in the '70s, he was advocating for a more closed system. Even if he has changed, though, supreme leader Khameini holds the real power, and can depose any president at any time. (He is the religious leader.)

It isn't that he is a good person to be in power- it's that he's better than Ahmadinejad.

Unfortunately both of them are interested in destroying Israel and the US.

Insanity wrote:Unfortunately both of them are interested in destroying Israel and the US.

Moussavi doesn't like America- that's different then wanting to destroy it.

well then, maybe I'm simply somewhat misinterpreting the news.

Or at least that's how I see it. All I read is the New York Times.

I watch Fox News, that's where i heard about it from

Insanity wrote:I watch Fox News, that's where i heard about it from

Fox news...Meh.

azer wrote:

Insanity wrote:I watch Fox News, that's where i heard about it from

Fox news...Meh.

Haha, interesting point. Perhaps make another topic about this.

> On topic:

Apparently a protester in Iran came on the news today [CNN I believe], and told all these horrible stories about what police/government officials are doing in Iran. They are actually AMBUSHING people nad MOBBING PEOPLE. And just BEATING people [with an intent to kill]. They are also putting on people for trial and MAKING them say that they were influenced by Western Civilization.

What does this show us, gentlemen? Ladies? Well, it shows how desperate and week the Iranian government really is. They know they're about to get their BUTTS handed to 'em. It's just.. absolutely stupid to think that no one is going to know what's REALLY going on behind the scenes with the Iranian government.

The beauty of this is: the whole world knows how bad the Iranian government is screwing up. And now, they're backed into a corner with the world face to face.

Hoodoo wrote:

azer wrote:

Insanity wrote:I watch Fox News, that's where i heard about it from

Fox news...Meh.

Haha, interesting point. Perhaps make another topic about this.

> On topic:

Apparently a protester in Iran came on the news today [CNN I believe], and told all these horrible stories about what police/government officials are doing in Iran. They are actually AMBUSHING people nad MOBBING PEOPLE. And just BEATING people [with an intent to kill]. They are also putting on people for trial and MAKING them say that they were influenced by Western Civilization.

What does this show us, gentlemen? Ladies? Well, it shows how desperate and week the Iranian government really is. They know they're about to get their BUTTS handed to 'em. It's just.. absolutely stupid to think that no one is going to know what's REALLY going on behind the scenes with the Iranian government.

The beauty of this is: the whole world knows how bad the Iranian government is screwing up. And now, they're backed into a corner with the world face to face.

The problem is, the way this is heading, Iran probably will have a bloody revolution, or the protestors will be violently quashed before they can do anything.

A bloody revolution.. yes.. but here's the thing Marina: Iran can't go back and say "oh well we did this and it isn't bad". The blood is on their hands now. The world is watching. Bloody, yes. But America, the world is aware of how bloody it is. YOU are aware of how bloody it is. What does that say Marina?

I think the protesters' efforts will not go to waste. I think they will get what they want, they just need to keep fighting. You know Moussavi or whatever his name is is already under house arrest. ;P

Hoodoo wrote:A bloody revolution.. yes.. but here's the thing Marina: Iran can't go back and say "oh well we did this and it isn't bad". The blood is on their hands now. The world is watching. Bloody, yes. But America, the world is aware of how bloody it is. YOU are aware of how bloody it is. What does that say Marina?

I think the protesters' efforts will not go to waste. I think they will get what they want, they just need to keep fighting. You know Moussavi or whatever his name is is already under house arrest. ;P

I agree, and I think that they need to keep on fighting. But I also think that it is a lose-lose situation. There is no way to get out of this without excesive bloodshed.

Marina- sadly, that is the case. However, there have been many revolutions in the past. It is a great sacrifice. But the evil were eventually eradicated, and the good returned. Bloodshed will happen with extreme tyranny + protesting civilians. I fully believe this will eventually be a .. "win-lose-lose" situation.

Marina is right, you can't get out of this situation without blood everywhere. The only clean way out is if everyone just stopped hating and killing, but what are the chances of that ever happening?!