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Post  Insanity on Wed Jun 24, 2009 4:42 pm

Debate your point of view on Obama's plans for a single-payer universal health care system.


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Post  azer on Wed Jun 24, 2009 7:45 pm

Insanity wrote:Debate your point of view on Obaba's plans for a single-payer universal health care system.
UH makes sense, if implemented correctly. You need to do it right, though, so that the system works for people with serious injuries and not kids with colds. The word is Obama, by the way.
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Post  Jon on Wed Jun 24, 2009 8:02 pm

When I was in England on the school trip, the tourguide was talking about their universal health care system, and it is not as great as many people say it is. Firstly, you would have to wait at least two months for any kind of special treatment. This is not good if you have a heart complication, malignant cancer, or any other disease requiring immediate treatment. This means that you have to choose private healthcare instead, which, it turns out, is more expensive because less people use it. Secondly, a government controlled organization is less likely to support (aka buy products from) medical innovators. Already, this may not be good for every country. To complicate this, the United States' large population and rather outdated means of communication between local, state, and federal governments mean that the transition would be slow and complicated. This means that in the interim of time between private and public healthcare, there may be some disastrous loopholes in government policy that will undoubtedly deny some citizens treatment. Sick
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Post  Insanity on Wed Jun 24, 2009 9:33 pm

I saw an interview with a Canadian brain-cancer survivor talking about UHC. She had a brain tumor and had to go to the US for immediate care [in fact, to find out what was wrong in the first place]. If she had stayed in Canada, she would have died from a problem she would have not even known about.

I believe this enforces Jon's point.
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Post  CookieMonsterofthe42 on Tue Jul 14, 2009 11:43 am

I agree with Jon. When I lived in Ireland My mother was sent to a specialist to see what was wrong with her. They have UHC there and she was told they would not be able to see her for at least six months. When she told them she also had private Health care they saw her the next week. Moral of the story UHC not such a good idea. Ireland is smaller than U.S.A and if they cant handle it.....we are doomed. If I was still in Ireland ..my dad could have died. He had a rare cancer. The way he was treated here was way more aggressive than some people we know in Canada with the same disease. His chances of survival were greater here than anywhere with UHC. So I'm not such a huge fan of UHC Sick
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Post  BobShmob on Tue Jul 14, 2009 9:04 pm

yeah, it can't handle a large population. Crying or Very sad
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Post  Insanity on Tue Jul 14, 2009 9:24 pm

but since the House and Senate is ruled by Democrats and Obama obviously plans to go on with UHC...

WE'RE ALL GOING TO DIE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

and pretty literally.

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Post  BobShmob on Tue Jul 14, 2009 9:25 pm

Ummmm... Some people don't share your sentiments.
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Post  Insanity on Tue Jul 14, 2009 9:31 pm

ooookay, if you say so. Rolling Eyes
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Post  CookieMonsterofthe42 on Wed Jul 15, 2009 11:27 am

Insanity wrote:ooookay, if you say so. Rolling Eyes
I agree with you..... take from someone who had UHC it is horrible
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Post  Insanity on Wed Jul 15, 2009 1:21 pm

it's scary D:
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Post  CookieMonsterofthe42 on Wed Jul 15, 2009 1:23 pm

Insanity wrote:it's scary D:
very scary
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Post  グリフィン on Wed Jul 15, 2009 3:10 pm

Felicia wrote:but since the House and Senate is ruled by Democrats and Obama obviously plans to go on with UHC...

WE'RE ALL GOING TO DIE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

and pretty literally.

Glenn Beck and Bill O'Reilly have taken their toll upon you.. oi vey. I think that's a bit harsh and a bit much.

There are benefits, there are dreadful cons, it's a balance game. http://www.familydoctormag.com/doctors-office/194-doctors-debate-universal-health-care-pros-and-cons-from-the-experts.html http://www.americasdebate.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=7343

Some interesting links on this subject. I say UHC has it's benefits, and could be potentially successful if it fixed a few of its cons [such as waiting times].

I very much dislike the idea of imposing MORE taxes (and after that bail-out plan? my god..), but if the system could be really beneficial, I'll be willing to spare.. At the moment, my opinion on UHC is: naw!
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Post  CookieMonsterofthe42 on Wed Jul 15, 2009 5:04 pm

I disagree with you I have seen UHC in action... it does not work out well..this happened without glen beck
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Post  IzNotSpontaneous on Wed Jul 15, 2009 9:48 pm

[quote="Insanity"]but since the House and Senate is ruled by Democrats and Obama obviously plans to go on with UHC...

WE'RE ALL GOING TO DIE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

and pretty literally.

[\quote]Yeah... I heard that if McCain won the election he would still have no real power b/c the rest of the government is democratic or something...
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Post  Insanity on Wed Jul 15, 2009 10:10 pm

yea.

i find it sad, though, that everything Congress does is blamed on the President. and i mean EVERYTHING.
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Post  CookieMonsterofthe42 on Thu Jul 16, 2009 8:48 am

Insanity wrote:yea.

i find it sad, though, that everything Congress does is blamed on the President. and i mean EVERYTHING.
this is also true
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Post  BobShmob on Thu Jul 16, 2009 8:59 am

yeah
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Post  CookieMonsterofthe42 on Thu Jul 16, 2009 12:46 pm

poor president
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Post  IzNotSpontaneous on Thu Jul 16, 2009 9:02 pm

not an easy job, and not EVERYONE blames the president. The people who actually know what the congress do don't blame him (usually) XD
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Post  Insanity on Thu Jul 16, 2009 10:59 pm

okay, but MOST people.
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Post  BobShmob on Fri Jul 17, 2009 8:27 am

only uninformed people blame everything on the president
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Post  CookieMonsterofthe42 on Fri Jul 17, 2009 8:43 am

that would be more than 50% of our population
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Post  BobShmob on Fri Jul 17, 2009 8:49 am

I know, but informed people don't do that (I don't know that I am totally informed either)
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Post  CookieMonsterofthe42 on Fri Jul 17, 2009 9:10 am

yeah same
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